Wednesday, November 11, 2009

Media Bias? You Decide...

So I open my USA TODAY and at the bottom of the 2nd page I see a headline..."USA HAD WETTEST OCTOBER ON RECORD". Kind of interesting so I start to read the article. In the 4th paragraph was the following..."October (2009) ...was extremely cool, the 3rd coldest since records began in 1895....Only Oct. 1925 & 1976 were cooler...Temperatures were below average in 8 or the 9 climate regions." Gee, have any of you heard ANYTHING, ANYWHERE about this? CBS,NBC,ABC,FOX,CNN,TWC? We sure get drilled about data regarding Global Warming. Heck, that's usually on the FRONT page. The fact of the matter is the Earth has been cooling lately and the AGW alarmists don't quite know what to do. Al Gore can go on all the talk shows and continue pushing his agenda/strategy, but the truth is the truth. The planet doesn't have a fever Al.

What a beautiful spell of weather is coming. Sunny, dry & pleasant days with crispy, cool nights into the weekend. Our next front arrives on Monday bringing the next chance for rain. Until then, Enjoy Fall. No signs of any arctic chill coming within the next 10 days.

23 comments:

ONLYREAL said...

You tell 'em, Bob!

I am so sick of the GW Extremists. I am waiting for them to start crying wolf because of Ida. Simply because it was a hurricane in the Gulf in November. Even though a hurricane in the Gulf in November isn't unheard of. You just know its coming...

ONLYREAL said...

Hmmm... After this spell of lovely weather is over with a strong upper level disturbance will approach and pass to the North of our area early next week. This will also be accompanied with a cold front. With the cold front, the possibility exists for a chance of Strong to Severe Thunderstorms on Monday. I am not completely sold on this yet because there may not be enough moisture in place ahead of the front and the most of the models keep the disturbance positively tilted while passing to our North. Nonetheless, I will keep an eye on the situation but until then only expect some showers and maybe a rumble of thunder prior to frontal passage on Monday. Until then enjoy this cool and dry air-mass that is in place over our area.

ONLYREAL

Bourbon St. Blues said...

OnlyReal, I agree a Hurricane that late in the season must get GW extremist to say SEE...GW still exists...

I am waiting for Dec 21st, when the TP will report a look back on fall and you bet, that the daily average temp will be a few degrees warmer than our average. I think that will be the case because its been quite mild to warm here since our August fronts.

They might not say anything about GW, but just the increased difference in temperature will get people thinking that must be because of GW. IMO

Sure do miss having a cold snap..I know Bob I must be patient.

Meanwhile...Ah now Bob what happened to #30, now I see #31 as your Saints Jersey...You got cheers at last weeks games after your weather forecast cameo...

Sticking my neck out here...10-0 going into the Monday Night game against New England...

ONLYREAL said...

I agree about the Saints being 10-0 going into the Pat's Game. I anticipate the next 2 games will be cake walks for the Saints. The Patriots will be a bit harder to beat but I think we will come through. I haven't been impressed with their defense this year and the Saints Offense should rip it to shreds. But 10-0 seems very likely at this point.

Caveman said...

Studies looking at the oceans and melting Arctic ice leave no room for doubt that it is getting warmer, it's been proven by people much brighter than anyone on this blog that you can't measure air temps and use that to prove or disprove if the globe is getting warmer but you have to use the OCEAN temps instead and they prove without a doubt that things are warming up! If not then explain ocean ice that has never melted for centuries is now melting and melting at increasing rates?

Baxter said...

I'm not sure who to believe, I cannot take a side as everybody makes a valid point. It's getting hot, but it's cold outside, it's getting cold but the oceans are heating. Whatever, just start recycling and enforcing industrial clean up for the plain and simple fact that it's the right thing to do.

ONLYREAL said...

Baxter,

Don't believe what Cavemen is saying, he is just trying to stir up the Blog again. The first thing I want to say is that how often is Caveman right? You know the answer. Now I will say this again. Man does NOT have an effect on the Earths global weather, maybe a small impact on a micro-scale but not on a global scale. The Earth is perfectly fine and it is actually in a cooling trend. The Earths warmest year on record is in 1998 and official records only go back to the Mid-1800's. So what is that? Almost 150 years out of 4 Billion years? That's like a Micro-Second of the Earths lifetime! So lets play their game and base the Earths state of health off of 150 years of Data. Once again the Earth's warmest year "on record" is 1998 and over the past 11 years the Earth has cooled at a steady rate. Do you have an explanation for the "Caveman"? If your explanation is Carbon dating of Ice? Well that in ineffective. Several "studies" have shown strong evidence that the Carbon dating of Ice deposits are HIGHLY inaccurate. Not to mention you probably didn't read the actual study you probably read an article in the paper or an a website that is BIASED, not to mention the media probably twisted the words of the study anyway. Or you could have based that off of one of Al's movies which is also false. Did you know in his movie he flipped the graph of the Earth temperature upside down? Lies, Lies, and more lies from the media and the "government" that is supposed to be in the common interest of the public. Man-made GW is all just a scam to get more of the money that you work hard for everyday out of your pocket through taxes. That's the sad reality. Don't buy what he says, Baxter. What he says is false. I hope this is a good enough explanation not to buy into The Man-made Global Warming hoax.

Caveman said...

"Once again the Earth's warmest year "on record" is 1998 and over the past 11 years the Earth has cooled at a steady rate." Incorrect sir...

2006 was the Earth's sixth warmest year on record, averaging 0.4°C above the 1961 to 1990 average, according to the World Meteorological Organization. The records extend back to 1861. And the UK charted its warmest year ever - its records go back to 1659.

2007 Was Tied As Earth's Second Warmest Year and 2008 was also pretty warm. The Earth's temperature from January-March 2009was the 8th-warmest on record.

If the earth is cooling explain the continued rapid melting of artic ice?

Beans said...

Alright guys.... Now that the weather is boring let's concentrate on important matters at hand.....GO SAINTS!!!! Only Real don't forget, Caveman is stiring the pot(shame on you caveman) We ignore him but love him anyway. Besides who could pick on such a nice looking young man? You look great in your suit!!!

Caveman said...

Caveman ain't stirring the pot... Just posting FACTS.. Others are brainwashed and believe the earth is cooling with no supporting data other than a few little pieces here and there that don't add up to much support for their stance.

GREG said...

What facts? Go to icecap.gov and pull up some real reports on ice coverage or explain why the glaciers in Washington States mountains are GROWING! I could go on and on but no need to.

Bob Breck said...

CAVEMAN...welcome back to the discussion. As long as you add something positive to the blog, I'll let your opinions on. Just don't get too carried away with "facts". Who's "facts"? If you claim NOAA or NASA, let me suggest you do a Google search for "global temperature errors". There you'll find some interesting information about how these temperature records have had many problems. In fact, NASA now admits 8 of the 10 warmest years are NOT since 1998. They occurred back in the 1930s ! But you missed my point...MEDIA BIAS.

CRAIG said...

AGW alarmist still have not acknowledged the disproving of their holy grail, Mann's Hockey Stick Graph. The flaw that it does not recognize the Medieval Warming Period or the Little Ice Age is the key. During the Medieval Warming Period the temps were warmer than today and there were no Hummers. The Little Ice Age came later. We also had a warming period early on in this century, when there weren't enough CO2 sources to cause any warming.

What will the AGW folks say when our cooling trend continues for another several years and there aren't any less Hummers? Probably, that this is due to the fact that their "measures are working".

Caveman said...

"Due to an error in calculations of mean U.S. temperatures, 1934, not 1998 as previously reported, is the hottest year on record in the United States. NASA scientists contend that the error has little effect on overall U.S. temperature trends and no effect on global mean temperatures, with 2005 still the hottest year worldwide by far, followed by 1998. "

"The corrections made almost no difference to global temperature trends."

"Climate scientists, however, are asserting that the uproar over the data corrections is nothing more than a tempest in a teapot. NASA GISS scientist Jim Hansen, who helped devise the algorithm used to correct for the various climate factors, wrote in an Aug. 10 e-mail that the errors were introduced when the U.S. stations switched between two different datasets in 2000, with the faulty assumption that the second dataset also included the necessary corrections, an error that was recognized and fixed, Hansen said. Acknowledging that 1934 now appears to have been slightly hotter than 1998 in the United States, he noted that the difference in the mean between the two years, of 0.02 degrees Celsius, was and always had been smaller than the uncertainty, although their relative positions are now flipflopped. Globally, however, the changes had no effect on rankings, and 1998 was still by far the warmest year on record before 2005." 1934 just slightly warmer than 98, big deal, what about the past few record breaking years? Small little error that made basically no difference in showing that the earth is warming up!

There are two factors that make it an interesting story," he says. "One is the little guy telling NASA that something is wrong — that has a lot of resonance. And then there's the more politicized issue, which is, 'how can we twist this to prove global warming is fake?'

http://www.livescience.com/environment/060324_glacier_melt.html

Still waiting on anyones thoughts on why glaciers are melting at increasing rates? For example: Why does Glacier National Park in Montana only have 26 named glaciers down from 150 in 1850?

Look I am a Caveman and I can tell you from personal experience that my cave is no longer covered in ice and I have not eaten a wooly mammouth in a long time.

ONLYREAL said...

I recommend anyone who is unsure about which direction the Earth's climate is heading to watch this...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2230209767554616723#

weatherbug said...

Thanks for the link ONLYREAL and cool video Bob.

Baxter said...
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Baxter said...

It just seems IF there was a reason to worry or not worry about GW, there would be one definitive result and it wouldn't be a bunch of people throwing about random facts. Listening to and considering both sides of the argument is like watching one of those History Channel shows where all of this "Earth being destroyed in seconds" stuff COULD and MIGHT happen. The Government does not have scientists covering up anything so factories can sell cars. The bottom line would eventually catch up to them. I consider all conspiracy theories to be made by people who have forgotten about Capitalism. Believe me, if Global Warming is coming, someone would know for sure and we would see quick buck plastic solutions being sold on the shelves of C.V.S. for GW protection. Give me one agreed upon solution by ANYONE and I'll take that side, whether it's for or against GW. Until then it just sounds like a mish mash of loose ended facts that nobody is actually too sure of. This, that, the kitchen sink, and my middle name have all been discredited.

Caveman said...

Baxter

Well when you think about who among us or our family will even be around anyway in 100, 200, 300 yrs for any temp changes to make any real difference.

Notice still no answer for melting glaciers...

Caveman said...

Onlyreal

Global warming is the rise in average global temperature that has happened over the past century. The 'industrial revolution' is the main cause of this rise in average temperature. The indiscriminate burning of fossil fuels have resulted in extreme atmospheric pollution leading to this condition. Coal is still burnt in huge quantities for various reasons such as electricity production. Burning of oil is a major culprit in the past century. Deforestation has increased to procure wood and make more space available for farming, resulting in an increase in carbon dioxide concentrations. All these pollutants help in trapping more heat in the earth's atmosphere, increasing global temperatures.

It is due to this increase in temperature that glaciers are melting more than they actually should. When a glacier melts fully, it exposes the earth below. Glaciers absorb approximately 20% heat from the sun, reflecting back 80%. When the earth gets exposed this percentage gets reversed. This in turn causes a further increase in temperature. This is a vicious trap which has already begun and it will be almost impossible for us to stop it totally.

In the future the global temperature will in all likelihood keep increasing, melting glaciers even faster than they are today.

Believe Bob mentioned deforestation in that video link you posted. Thanks

Bob Breck said...

Some of what you say is true CAVEMAN, but if you are older than 50, you should remember the 40s, 50s & 60s when factories were allowed to spew all kinds of stuff into the atmosphere. That particulate matter reflected some of the incoming solar radiation. This resulted in a cooling period that my college professors thought might be the start of another little Ice Age. Once the Clean Air Act (1970) was passed and industries cleaned up their smoke stacks, a warming period started. Had nothing to do with CO2 levels. As for the glaciers, not all are melting. Some are, so what. The Arctic ice is again increasing and this will mark the 3rd straight year for that to happen. While many want you to believe climate is a black & white issue, the more one reads & researches, the more one sees there is a lot of gray. By the way, back in 1989 NASA's James Hansen told a congressional committee that we have only 10 years left to act regarding stopping GW. That was was 20 years ago.

ONLYREAL said...

I have made myself time and time again very clear on my stance of Man-Made Global Warming.

Have what I wrote numerous times not convincing enough? Lets watch somebody named John Coleman who has a heck of a lot more credibility than me.

John Coleman slams global warming (1 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8SSqc7ekM

John Coleman slams global warming (2 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PuyvDCF95U

John Coleman slams global warming (3 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saqIqea6C0s

John Coleman slams global warming (4 of 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9ZXdX3qtQI

who dat baby! said...

hey only real i know this is off the subject but is it really soppose to snow here?